On Sunday morning, Brian asked me if I wanted a nap, just as we were being awakened by Jack’s crying. I half-sleepily said, “God, are you kidding?? Of course! That’s a stupid question!” He posted our exchange on Facebook, and got several responses. Most were just people laughing, but some of them seemed to imply I should be falling all over myself in humble appreciation because Captain America generously offered to take care of his own kid.
And this brings up an important insight that we are both getting, these days. I understand from talking with my friends that our situation is unusual. I understand that Brian is not only a good person, but a great partner and dad. I am lucky to have ever met him. And I am astounded that his level of involvement in raising our son is not the norm. It saddens me, not only for my own sake and the sake of other women, but also on behalf of all the men who are missing out on the lives they’ve helped to create.
For all the advancement of women in the workplace, religion, and politics, women are still expected to be the primary caregivers at home. I hear and read all the time about “the second shift,” women who work full-time and then come home and run the household. Frankly, I think it’s not only exhausting for women, but insulting to men. He doesn’t know how to cook? He’s 35 years old, for God’s sake! What did he live on before now? Worms?
The magazines geared toward “Parents” and “Parenting” (with those very titles) are actually geared toward women–moms! Articles on make-up and hair advice abound. Tips on how to lose that baby weight, etc. I think that these publications can be very helpful and supportive to women who are doing all of the child-rearing, with or without a dad in the house. But dads are often left out of the marketing equation. Why? Because so many of them aren’t doing that work. It’s shocking, actually. Brian started out being offended by the mass-market exclusion of his role in the parenting process. I have had to point out to him more than once that it’s because so many men just aren’t interested. Then he changes the direction of his outrage and rails against the biases of his own gender.
As well he should. In the 21st century, we as citizens of the world should be ashamed that women make 70 cents on the dollar for the same work in business, that magazines need to market all of their parenting advice to women, and that men are expected to bring home the bacon, camp out in front of Monday Night Football, and swill beer. I even have a pregnancy book that advises “letting Dad help” by about the third week of the new baby’s life. WHAT??? Brian was like, “And what have I been doing until then? Sitting around with my thumb up my ass?” Which of course, he wasn’t. But it shocked us both to discover that even among couples we know, that’s more common than we ever realized.
So. Yes, I am grateful. Of course I am grateful. I couldn’t ask for a better partner, lover, friend, and father for our son. But to those men who believe that raising children is “women’s work,” I’d like to say, “You are missing the boat, dude. You are missing the most important work of all, the most important moments of life. And it sucks to be you.”
May 20, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Yeah…every time I go out with Talin, people are always saying what a great dad he is…that he helps…and by helping they mean they see him pushing the stroller. I told the fudge lady at the farmer’s market to hold the phone. “He’s a big guy,” I said, “The LEAST he can do is push a twenty pound stroller around on flat terrain so I can fucking breathe.”
All of that said, you are very generous. I had serious resentment towards Talin when I breastfed. Afterall…why should he get up in the middle of the night if I’ve got the milk? There’s no point in us BOTH being zombies. But on the other hand…it was sort of hard not to hate him. lol.
I would like to comment though that I truly don’t feel like there is anything wrong with one spouse “bringing home the bacon.” Talin is VERY aware of what I contribute to this household and it’s a lot. But he likes the idea that he goes out and brings something he can see back into the house. He gets some sort of old fashioned kick out of being able to buy me whatever I want, put groceries in the cabinets…buy clothes for Luke. And he knows he’d go crazy staying home. But he also doesn’t want a stranger raising our child in daycare and either do I, which is ultimately why I’m home now and not working (although I’m already having mini-breakdowns about the eminent daycare once school starts). It’s not about putting me in my place or keeping me in my place. It’s about how it’s pretty f-ing unrealistic to want me to be the kind of mom we want me to be while I’m working full-time in a demanding career. He sort of knows being a mom is work. In his eyes, being a stay at home mom is a job.
I just wanted to clarify that men who bring home the bacon aren’t all sexiest pigs, lol.
May 21, 2010 at 4:03 am
Chris isn’t saying that men who bring home the bacon are sexist pigs – at least I hope she’s not, since I bring home the bacon in our house at the moment. I think she’s targeting her vitriol at the ones who engage in nothing but beer-swilling and football-watching after bringing it home.
I think a lot of men out there behave that way because they don’t think that taking care of a baby is real work. Of course, they are dead wrong – unless you’re working in a salt mine or a war zone, your job is almost certainly easier than the infant care your wife is doing, and you should freaking help her out and give her a break when you get home.
Our society’s standards for male participation in child rearing are insultingly low, and my gender’s widespread willingness to live down to those standards positively infuriates me.
Thanks for writing this, honey – this needs to be said.
May 21, 2010 at 5:35 am
It’s a tough line for sure… for some men babies are terrifying (especially infants); so they feel way more comfortable contributing in their comfort zone, i.e. ‘bringing home the bacon’ and just avoid anything more than cooing from a distance. Whereas other dads really do think that Mamas care for the babes (easy cheesy) and they do “MAN’S WORK” (tough stuff). Then… there are other sorts of Papas…. I know that they are rare, because like you I have been hearing how lucky I am, BUT I like to think that we are part of a revolution! All around me I see fathers taking major roles in their little one’s lives… and it is so f**king cool! I almost seems that for every old timer (and there’s a lot in Santa Fe, men and women) talking to me about a woman’s job as a mama, there is a papa staying home with the baby, or playing ‘grumpy old troll’ at the playground, or teaching the virtues of fruit at the grocery.
Peggy O’Mara wrote an editorial for Mothering Magazine in February about her son becoming a father, and included as an afterward many links to sites/blogs/what-have-yous that are totally daddy-centric.
http://mothering.com/peggyomara/category/qpeditorials
I guess it isn’t so common to have such an involved father, but it’s out there though (and of course, it’s on the web!)
May 21, 2010 at 5:37 am
Sorry, for that link you hove to scroll down to ‘My Son A Father’ in February!
May 22, 2010 at 2:37 am
I read an article for a couples therapy class entitled “the three career family.” I mentioned it to Steve and he was all “what’s the third career?” which really startled me. “Um…parenthood?” It has been stunning to me too how often fathers are excluded from pregnancy and baby stuff, and sort of stunning how they exclude themselves, oftentimes innocently. It just so happened that despite being the 6mo. pregnant one I landed a job for the fall being a dorm parent at a private boarding school, and he will have the opportunity to be a stay at home dad on MY dime…which he keeps forgetting. I think we had both assumed I’d be a SAHM, at least initially. In a way I will, as dorm parenting leaves the majority of every weekday free and every other weekend free (plus school vacations, woooo!), but I will also be doing some light coaching and an afternoon of counseling. Steve keeps thinking, hmmm, what project will I do first? And I keep saying “how about FATHERHOOD?!” This is not to malign Steve at all. I consider him to be a pretty enlightened equal-opportunity kind of dude. He was just not socialized to really think “MEN RAISE BABIES.” Another trend we picked up in Couples Therapy was that women inevitably adjust to the idea of motherhood during pregnancy when their body is taken over and they feel the baby move and all that. Men often only feel that adjustment once the baby is born — my professor even suggested it then takes them an equivalent 9 months to really wrap their heads around it. I think that’s a bit steep; I think Steve will be on it a lot sooner, especially if he remains unemployed for a while. I’m actually hoping he does; it’s one of the things I’m looking forward to most, getting to see him with our child, getting to share the hardships and the milestones in person.
One last joke around the school of social work: despite the open-minded PC-ness of our profession, we were given 100% freedom to kick some ass if we caught any dads saying they were going to “babysit” their kids. Um no, you’re their Dad — you’re going to PARENT them, buddy!!
Thanks for another thoughtful blog entry!
May 22, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Yeah…I looked forward to seeing Talin with our kid when I was pregnant. I was pretty 100% positive that he would be as supportive, participatory and excellent at being a dad as he is at being a husband. And then I had Luke and floated down from fairytale land and joined the real world. The sad fact of the matter is, Talin didn’t come preprogrammed knowing how to be in a relationship. His family doesn’t really talk about stuff like that. No one had a big talk with him about how he should contribute in a relationship. So when I met him when he was 17, that kid needed some serious guidance about how to be a real partner…about what marriage means. It took five years to get that down. And just when we got that down, we inserted a child into the picture….
Now Talin loves this child. I know he loves this child because he has nightmares about something bad happening to us/him and he tells me about them and in the nine years that I’ve known this man, he’s never had one damn nightmare…he’s just not a worrier and he doesn’t overthink things…it’s why I married him. But he’s had to LEARN how to be a daddy. Just like I’ve had to learn how to be a mommy. He’s not perfect. We’ve had arguments about what level of responsibility he should assume in Luke’s life…about when my job as SAHM ends and our lives as parents begin each day.
Now just to set the record straight…does my husband change diapers? Yes, always, he changed them for the first three days solo actually. Does this man feed this kid? Yes, usually when he gets home and then he does half of the night feedings. Does this man love and adore this child? Pretty much.
Did he understand at first that I need a break and he has to take Luke AWAY or let me LEAVE this house alone? Absolutely not. Did he sort of ASSume that I’ve basically got kid duty 24/7 because I’m staying at home? He’d tell you no, but I can promise you he means yes. Does he do as much as I do for this child? No. Emphatically no. He couldn’t possibly. He works 12 hour days and we own our own business. He couldn’t if he had six hands.
I guess what I’m saying is…I get sort of tired of hearing about how everyone has these perfect relationships with their partners post-partum. I’m doing this newborn thing right this second and I know it’s not perfect. I actually worry for people that don’t fight during this time in their lives. Seriously? This is the most stressful thing I’ve ever done. And I also don’t see this daddy thing as so black and white. Talin’s not absent, but he’s not trying to quit his job and be a stay at home daddy either. He’s just normal. He’s just figuring out how to insert this new little person into our lives. So am I. We’re both fucking up terribly. We’re not perfect. We’re just trying…that’s all we can do.
So that probably didn’t make any sense. I don’t have any time to really put my thoughts together. But I have been inspired to continue to respond to this thread because this idea of perfect daddies vs. totally absent ones has gotten me fired up these days as has stay at home moms versus career moms.
May 22, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Wow, guys, this is a great discussion! Thanks for all of these comments.
First off, I need to say that Brian is far from perfect, and so am I. I can only hope that Jack survives our ineptitude as parents. But we are doing our best, just like everyone else. My point in bringing this up is that we all live with tremendous societal (and familial, in many cases) pressures to “perform” a certain way. And I think it sucks. It’s unfair to BOTH men and women. (I recently read a book by Sue Monk Kidd, where she says that she finally realized that patriarchy harms men as much as women. Amen.)
Our current situation is that Brian does make the money, and I do stay home and take care of Jack. We say that to each other every day. My full-time job is taking care of Jack. That’s my job. And it’s just as important, and rather more difficult, than Brian’s job. At the same time, we need Brian’s job to buy food and keep a roof over our heads. We are *lucky* that he can work from home and see Jack more than a lot of dads can. But the idea that he wouldn’t get up in the middle of the night to feed him – because he’s the *man* – infuriates both of us. That’s one of the biggest reasons that we decided to supplement Jack’s breast milk diet with formula: so Dad gets time to help take care of him, and Mom can get some @#$@#ing sleep!
Becky, you’re right that the guys have had to learn how to be in relationships, but frankly, so have I. My parents didn’t do the best job in the world of raising me to feel confident about connecting with people. But they did a damn sight better than THEIR parents did. So I can only hope that we’re part of an evolution (and revolution, Natalie!) toward better relationships.
I believe that the point of feminism and equal rights is NOT to push women out into the work place to become CEOs (or dorm parents
), though of course I’m glad that some women are ABLE to choose that course, if it works for them. The point, in my opinion, is twofold. First, for women to be able to *choose* to do whatever work they want to do; and second, for ALL of us to *honor* the work that women have traditionally done for centuries – no matter who does it.
May 22, 2010 at 8:07 pm
First of all, let me say that Chris is emphatically NOT targeting Talin with any of her comments. It is mostly a reaction against societal prejudices and expectations, and the individuals we do have in mind are not known to any of you who are reading and posting on this.
Also, it’s easy when you’re stressed out and unsure of yourself to look at others and see only their strengths and your weaknesses. This may be especially true in your case, since you are remarkably courageous and frank about speaking up about your difficulties and negative thoughts and feelings. It may surprise you to hear this, but there was a day not all that long ago when Chris was in tears because she felt like such a mess and you seemed to have it so together. I had to show her some of your (and other new mothers’) comments repeatedly to get her to see that you were having the same frustrations, fears, and insecurities that she was.
Also, I can assure you that we have not been even remotely conflict-free when it comes to division of child-care labor. She’s gotten mad at me for being able to leave the house more easily and spend more time away from the baby, and I’ve gotten mad right back at her because the time I “get to have” away from the house and baby frequently means going straight from work to shop at Target, then come home, cook dinner, eat, clean up after dinner, watch Jack while Chris gets ready for bed, then go straight into my 9:30-12:30 baby watching shift.
We’ve also had arguments over who would take that shift because I was so tired I could barely hold my eyes open, and Chris was equally tired and also so sick of taking care of Jack that she was ready to throw him out a window.
But those arguments are slowly resolving, as we are figuring out how to let Chris get out of the house more, and how to get out of the house together and do whatever we want, either with Jack in tow or in the care of a babysitter. We’ve fed him in bedrooms at parties, in the post office parking lot, at Hugh MacRae Park, and changed his diaper on the floor of the men’s room at Jackson’s BBQ, but we’ve made it happen.
But the bottom line is, it’s a lot of work and stress and conflict for both parties, and it’s nearly impossible to do without two committed people doing their damnedest to make it happen.
That’s why our society’s low expectations of men are so unacceptable, and why Chris wrote this post.
May 22, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Hey guys,
Sorry if I upset either one of you. I’m sort of touchy right now due to a progressive lack of sleep, but also because my sister and I were just having this discussion about what people “don’t say” about parenthood, motherhood, fatherhood etc., which generally speaking, is anything negative. Lately, it seems like everyone (not you, but seriously EVERYONE else seems to be posting a sentimental message on Facebook about how people couldn’t live without their children) thinks childrearing is a blessing and this miracle and what not and for me, it’s felt like the world has crashed down in flames as I discover that I may not get to use the bathroom by myself or get a decent nights sleep for the next 3-18 years (all of this said, it’s everyone’s perfect right to be gloriously proud and in love with their offspring…I’m just in a mood). lol. And then I rather insensitively and blindly inserted context between the lines of this blog and responded accordingly. Sorry about that.
And then of course…there is this satanic internet….a place where you can just fire off responses to things without really thinking it through or having the time to run out to the mailbox three hours after you write a letter and remove it before the postal service whisks it away to its unsuspecting recipient. Talin says he’s going to rig a system at our house where all outgoing internet messages are forwarded to him for approval before they are released out into the world for people to see. Thus making me look like less of an ass. Coming soon to a theater near you…
May 22, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Dude, no worries. I’m glad someone is so frank about the difficulties of being a new parent. In fact, can I quote your blog on my blog? I wanted to add how much I appreciated your treatment of the dark humor. In particular, I’m thinking of the picture of Talin and Luke, where Luke’s saying, “Shut up and wipe my butt, asshole.”